Πέμπτη, 16 Μαΐου 2013
Ο Πρωθυπουργός κ. Αντώνης Σαμαράς, στο πλαίσιο της επίσημης
επίσκεψής
του στη Λαϊκή Δημοκρατία της Κίνας, παρευρέθηκε σήμερα στην παρουσίαση
του «Glamorous Greece», τηλεοπτικού αφιερώματος στην Ελλάδα που θα
μεταδοθεί από τον Κινεζικό τηλεοπτικό όμιλο CCTV. Το αφιέρωμα
παρουσίασε ο Πρόεδρος του Κινεζικού δικτύου. Ο Πρωθυπουργός κ. Αντώνης
Σαμαράς, στον χαιρετισμό του δήλωσε:
«Ευχαριστώ θερμότατα τον πρέσβη της Λαϊκής Δημοκρατίας της Κίνας στην
Ελλάδα, τον κ. Du Qiwen, και τον τηλεοπτικό σταθμό CCTV, γιατί
παρουσίασε ένα δείγμα από την ομορφιά και τη μαγεία της Ελλάδας, που
πολλές φορές ξεπερνάει κι εκείνα που θέλει να δείξει ο φακός. Είναι η
πολιτιστική κληρονομιά και η Ιστορία της χώρας μας διά μέσου των αιώνων
μέσα από όλες τις ιστορικές περιόδους. Είναι η μεγάλη ποικιλία εικόνων
από μαγευτικά ακρογιάλια έως- θα έλεγα- μυθικά ορεινά συγκροτήματα. Και
είναι, κυρίως, όλα αυτά που ζούνε μέσα στην ψυχή του Έλληνα, όπως η
φιλοξενία του κι όπως το πείσμα του να περνάει τις δυσκολίες. Αλλά και
η βαθιά εκτίμηση και ο σεβασμός που νιώθουν όλοι οι Έλληνες για τον
Κινεζικό πολιτισμό και η αγάπη τους για τον Κινεζικό λαό.
Εύχομαι να έχετε την ευκαιρία να τα γνωρίσετε όλα αυτά από κοντά. Και
είμαι βέβαιος ότι οι λαοί μας θα έρθουν πιο κοντά μέσα από μια
στρατηγική σχέση που βήμα-βήμα οικοδομούμε. Και πάλι σας ευχαριστώ
θερμότατα. Ήταν η πιο όμορφη πρώτη στιγμή της επίσκεψης μας στην Κίνα.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ».
Στη συνέχεια, ο Πρωθυπουργός μίλησε στην Κινεζική Ακαδημία Κοινωνικών Επιστημών. Ακολουθεί η ομιλία του Πρωθυπουργού:
«Dear friends,
It is a great honor and real pleasure for me - and for all the members
of the Greek delegation – to be here in China today. For some of us,
like myself, this is the first time and this has always been my dream;
it is a life-long destination that I have finally reached. And it’ s
definitely Mr. President a great honor for me to be here, in this
Academy of such a great international importance.
May I first say that Chinese and Greeks, no matter how different we are
in many aspects, we share something absolutely important and vital: We
both carry a very rich cultural tradition with deep, very deep,
influence over the centuries to all parts of the world.
We have both carved deep and long paths in History.
As some have said, other people count time in years or decades…
Chinese and Greeks count time in centuries and millennia!
We share other things too: Ancient China went through a period of
“Spring and Autumn” during which “a thousand schools of thought”
flourished. Ancient Greece had exactly the same experience, roughly
during the same historical period in the Antiquity. When the
pre-Socratic, naturalist philosophy produced the legendary “seven
sages”, or wise men.
Ancient China had its period of “warring states”, between the 5th and
the 3rd centuries BC or BCE - Before our Common Era. About the same
time, we experienced the same phenomenon, of Greek City States fighting
for dominance amongst each other.
Back in the sixties and the early seventies, Chinese studies were not so
much in fashion, in the rest of the world, as they are today. But,
being a Greek, I was always interested in China. I remember long
discussions with some of my friends, trying to figure out “parallels”
and “distinctions” between our cultures:
-- Was Confucius closer to Plato or to Aristotle?
-- Was Sun Tzu closer to the strategic realism of Thucydides or to the tactical pragmatism and mastery of Xenophon?
-- Was General Sun Bin, this long descendant of Sun Tzu, a parallel to
Alexander or to Ificrates? or to Miltiades for that matter?
-- Was Lao Tzu, or Lao Tse, a parallel to Pythagoras or to Heraclitus?
To tell you the truth, I never answered those questions, I don’ t think
that anybody has ever answered them in a satisfactory manner.
But in any case, there is one thing certain about all these: Chinese
Culture and Greek Culture gave “meaning” to human societies, across the
borders and across the ages. They both provided time-transcending
ideals, principals, norms, rationality, ethics and aesthetics that
enriched spirituality, beyond short-lived intellectual fashions, trivial
concerns or momentary impressions.
Even in more recent time frames, our two countries, China and Greece,
look so different in many aspects and yet so strikingly similar in many
others.
Indeed, we are so different in size, location on the globe and social
systems. And yet so similar in other respects: we both suffered
dramatically from foreign aggression and occupation during the Second
World War. Our peoples fought on the same side of the anti-fascist war
and endured a lot of suffering. And this binds us together even more.
Finally, we both went through periods of painful transformation after
the War. And we have covered a very long way in a very short time these
last decades…
And, here comes another striking difference among us: China is now
rapidly emerging as a world power, is a big world power. Greece, on the
other hand, is striving to overcome one of the most severe social and
economic crisis of the last 50 years; a crisis that, for a moment,
jeopardized all of our achievements in the last 30 years.
In a short and shallow perspective, we seem to be on different
“trajectories” or in opposing “phases”. But in a broader and longer
perspective, our destinies are closer than most “outsiders” can suspect.
And this is precisely what I would mainly try to address today: Not the
past of our countries, but our common prospects in the future. And I
would not constraint my presentation to Greece alone. I would rather
talk about Europe as a whole, of which Greece is and will remain an
integral part.
What makes it even more relevant now is that in the first half of next
year Greece will hold the Presidency of the European Union. And, I
think, this is a unique opportunity to reshape Sino-European relations.
Of course, this is a much broader issue, extending way beyond Greece
itself. It has to meet the consensus of all 27 members of our Union and
all of our Institutions. But Greece can play a role in achieving it and
this is what we intend to do. Because we believe it is to the best
interests of all parties involved: Europe, China and Greece, of course.
Now China and Europe are two unique pillars of our International System.
They are the first and third political entities world-wide, in terms of
population. They haven’t posed any security threat for each other in
the past. But they really need each other for a number of reasons, both
economic and political, concerning trade and investment flaws as well as
geopolitical concerns.
Admittedly, there are some obstacles in the construction of a deep
bilateral relationship. But there is a common scope from both sides to
overcome these obstacles. Europeans and Chinese need each other. They
are wise enough, experienced enough and non-aggressive enough, to make
it happen. The sooner we realize it, I believe the more successful we
are going to be.
Already ten years have elapsed since the first Strategic Agreement
between Europe and China. We believe that this can move much further and
really faster…
Now, how does Greece come into play? For starters it is the natural
“gateway” to China. Despite the fact that we are a relatively small
country, our Commercial fleet is the largest in the world and has
already provided a very large contribution in the trade between China
and Europe. Bilateral trade means transportation. And this, in turn,
means commercial routes, transportation means and infrastructures. We
can have a serious contribution in all these fields: Greek ports, Greek
airports, and Greek railways can be a part of large commercial network
extending way beyond Greece in the European hinterland, from South East
to North West.
Of course, this will not be the only path of trade between China and
Europe; but both parties need “alternatives” to feel secure. And the
“Greek gateway” can very well serve as a major route among other viable
alternatives. We don’t regard ourselves as “competing” with others, in
serving the Sino-European trade. We rather think in the context of
complementing other potential trade routes…
One of the advantages of our proposal, however, is that most of the
infrastructures exist. We need new construction works, mainly upgrading
some of our ports and our railway system. And we already run a major
multi-project privatization plan, including concessions to many pieces
of ready infrastructures.
We would want Chinese companies to play an active role in that. We can
team up together to shape up this major gateway between China and
Europe.
Moving beyond infrastructures, we know that on trade routes there is a
large scope for logistics providers. We believe it would be an excellent
idea if Chinese companies took this opportunity and invest on logistic
services in Greece, as part of a plan to bring China and Europe closer.
Even beyond commercial routes, there is a large scope for communication
networks. We know that this is an area where China is becoming more and
more competitive on a world level. We strongly believe that all of
Europe can benefit from such competition.
On the other hand, there is a special national scope for Greece in all
these considerations: In Tourism, in Archaeological visits, in Primary
Sector exports and manufacturing. We don’t produce very large
quantities, at least for the scale of China. But we are proud for the
quality of a number of our products: our extra-virgin olive oil which is
the base for the famous Mediterranean diet; our fruits and vegetables -
fresh, frozen or processed; our fisheries. All these and dozens more,
present real opportunities for foreign trade and investment in
manufacturing.
Most of you have some idea about these Greek competitive advantages.
But, if you asked me, the five most important advantages of Greece, are
not so well known abroad.
--Firstly, its unique coastal line: Our coasts are about as long as the
coastline of all of Africa! This, including a unique archipelago of
islands scattered in short distance from each other, offers vast
opportunities for all kinds of economic activities, from sea sports to
sailing and island hoping, to fishing and to transportation.
-- Secondly, a unique combination of historical sight-seeing, from the
prehistoric to the modern era. In a neighborhood of a few miles, you can
visit temples from the classical period, the site of famous
battlefields during the Roman years, monumental Byzantine churches of
over thousand years, plus some of the most modern hotel resorts, close
to sites from the ancient mythology. These combinations in the same
vicinity present themselves literally all over Greece, from North to
South, from East to West, from the legendary Mount Olympus to the
Cycladic island of Delos, from one epicenter of our ancient civilization
to the next.
Not to mention unique natural sites of huge rocks, hanging as if from
heaven, some of them even decorated on top with centuries-old
monasteries.
-- Thirdly, an equally unique diversity of animal and plant life: From
wild flowers and herbs, to life stock breads, providing all kinds of
production, manufacturing and export opportunities.
-- Fourthly, Educational and Cultural exchanges. We are a small nation
that has learned and appreciated the potential of Education. Whenever we
had stunning successes in our history, education had played a key role.
We know that you share the same experience and the same conviction. So
we can join forces.
Imagine an unprecedented dialogue between East and West Cultures. I can
only express my pride for the fact that a Greek ship-owner, the late
Vasilis Constantacopoulos, has helped establishing a Center of Hellenic
Studies in the University of Beijing. I want to pay tribute to his
contribution and to his memory. This is definitely a good start. And as
they say, the sky is the limit!
So, imagine a dialogue between China and Greece, open to other parties,
on philosophy, Mr. President, which you have studied so well, on
mathematics, on comparative historical studies as well as on
contemporary fields of applied science, as medicine, electronics and
renewable energies. Joined research ventures between us, could really
capture the attention of the spiritual world across continents and open
up new roads for global understanding. I’ ve just told at CCTV in an
interview, I had that somebody on the plane, as we were coming, was
reading Sun Tzu. And I said, why was he doing this? Was he trying to
find out about historic weaponry? Of course not. What he was searching
was the dynamic part of the wisdom that was radiating through the book.
It’s the wisdom you are looking for in Lao Tse, for instance, in
Confucius for instance. What other countries, what other civilizations
could ever open a such a dialogue and re-discuss the History and the
development of the world through the ages talking about personalities of
that high standard in the world of Philosophy, for instance, or
History. To such a dialogue can be a very important part of the
synergies we can look for among our two countries.
--Last but not least, an immeasurable potential of human capital. We
have talents and skills of thousands of Greeks, who have studied and
excelled in Greek and foreign Universities. In almost any campus we can
visit all over the western world, you will find large crowds of Greeks
specializing on all fields of Science and Technology. Many of them are
staying abroad because of the harsh recession that has hit Greece
recently. And almost all of them would like to return to Greece and have
a career commensurate to their education. The training and experience
they have acquired is probably the most dynamic of the Greek advantage
today.
--And may I add, ladies and gentlemen, a final geopolitical point:
Greece is stably anchored in the European Union. But if one just looks
on the map, he will certainly realize that the stability, the prosperity
and the extraversion of Greece, can play a vital role to the east
Mediterranean beyond Europe. This is a troubled region, where along with
our partners, we can help keep it stable and keep it growth oriented.
We know that China has a profound interest in the Middle East and in
North Africa regions. And we understand that our potential stabilizing
role in this area is also something that you may appreciate.
Now the good thing about all this is that we don’t have to start from
the very beginning. We already have Chinese companies established in
Greece, like Cosco in the major Greek and Mediterranean Port of Piraeus.
And, I have to admit that during difficult times, the Cosco investment
was a valuable relief for Greece, keeping employment and job security
when everything else was collapsing. So, now Cosco is expanding in
Piraeus…
We are also in the process of discussing plans for building a large
airport hub from China to Europe and Northern Africa, based on the Greek
island of Creta; or planning a privatization for our modern Venizelos
airport in Athens, one of the most profitable? commercial airports in
our part of the world. We find advanced Chinese interest about that
airport as well.
Indeed things have already taken place between our countries. There are
two memoranda of strategic cooperation signed up since 2006. Some of
them opened new grounds and came to fruition. In other aspects, however,
things have stagnated, mainly due to the deep crisis Greece found
itself in, since 2009.
And this brings us to the last thing I would like to focus upon.
Contrary to what was the case just a year ago, everybody is now
recognizing Greece’s success regarding the implementation of its Fiscal
Consolidation program, believe me a very difficult and painful program.
Greece is also praised by European authorities and the international
press for its resolve to push for bold structural reforms.
So we are now more than half the way through to make a real comeback, a way more than half through!
We have already achieved the largest debt restructuring in History, without default!
We have already concluded more than two-thirds of the most ambitious
fiscal consolidation plan ever implemented, bringing down our deficit
by more than 10 percentage points of GDP in three years; eliminating
completely our primary deficit; covering three-quarters of our gap of
competitiveness, while losing- please listen to this, you will realize
how painful this is- 20 to 25% of our GDP in 4 years!
These are important records on all counts; records of achievement; but
also records of painful transformation of the entire country.
So, you see Greece is transforming. It is changing the image abroad. And it is changing in essence at home.
So, whatever stagnated in the past, can gain new momentum.
And whatever succeeded in the most difficult circumstances in the recent
years, can definitely succeed even more in the years to come.
With this opportunity, I want to thank you today on behalf of all
Greeks! During our most difficult moments in the last three years, China
stood on our side. In a way that was very discrete, very steady and
very comforting for us. With your public statements you supported
Europe; you supported Greece’s efforts to stay in the Euro! We felt it
back home. And we won’t forget it.
The “Greek comeback” is already been reflected in the international
markets, where if you look at the spreads– the gauge for country risk –
have receded by about two-thirds of their record levels a year ago.
Things are happening indeed! Greece is changing spectacularly, and
Greek-Chinese relations have already made “inroads” that we are now
ready to expand.
Since I know how much you value sincerity and since this is exactly what we value the most, I want to tell you this:
I wouldn’t be here, if we hadn’t turned in Greece our ship around.
I wouldn’t be here, if we hadn’t succeeded in making a “comeback”.
But I am here, standing in front of you, because I can look at you
straight in the eyes and tell you that, whatever has already worked in
our relations so far, we can now speed it up, expand it, built on it.
Whatever has not worked, we can fix it and we can make it happen.
Our biggest political capital right now is the credibility we have
managed to regain as a country, in a very short period of time. We have
built our credibility in Europe, and - believe me again- it wasn’t easy.
We are now expanding our credibility beyond Europe.
To sum it up, let me give a few key-words:
--“Honor”! Chinese and Greeks perfectly understand what it means. It is a basic trait, characteristic, in both our Histories.
--“Virtue”! Chinese and Greek certainly understand it. It is a key concept in both our Cultures.
--Greece emerging as a “Gateway” between China and Europe. It is a prospect very significant for both of us.
-- Building together this “Cultural bridge” I talked before about
between East and West! It can have a tremendous impact world-wide. And
we can make it happen.
Finally: Turning Greece from a “scapegoat of Europe” to a major success
story, has a symbolism much larger than Greece. It is a message that
Europe can solve its problems and return to growth as well.
The “Greek comeback” will also symbolize a “European comeback”.
To make a long story short, we want China to be a part of this success story.
Thank you very much
Ερώτηση: You talked about structural reform and fiscal consolidation.
These measures have played an important role in working out of the
crisis and were also serve long term growth. My question is, going
forward are you going to bring measures to stimulate short-term growth?
And if there is any, how will you prevent conflict between the
short-term measures and long term fiscal consolidation measures?
Α. Σαμαράς: Thank you for the question. Look, austerity measures and
tight fiscal policy were necessary, because our debt had expanded in an
incredible manner. If you do not want to be depended on foreign
creditors and if you want to have the possibility of standing on your
own feet, you have to go through fiscal changes, in order to get rid of
the huge debt problem. Our debt problem was so big that it had created
spillover effects all over Europe. And this is what had created this
unbelievable concept of the Grexit. We had to fight this. It was a
national bet we had to win. And I can really tell you we are winning it,
because if you see simply the market and the spreads and the fact that
“Fitch”, for instance, gave us back the B- position from the last one we
used to be, which was basically called “junk bonds”, one can realize
that the difference is there today.
On the other hand, we have a real problem and this is called
unemployment. Unemployment has reached the incredible level of 27%
overall. They have huge problems in France, with 10,3%. We have 60%
unemployment among the youth over 15 years old, 60%! This is reaching a
level of unbelievable social pain and dramatic problems in the area of
social cohesion. So, we have to face this. How do you face it? Through
the loans you got, through the funds, which are basically structural
funds you can get from the Europeans, as we did, through investments
that we are asking for, through privatizations we are doing, you can
form what you call a shorten policy also. And you can allow money to
circulate in a dehydrated economy, where starting from May up to the end
of October I believe there is going to be enough rain in this
dehydrated economy also from tourism, where this year we are hopefully
going to break the record of 17 million people coming to Greece. I would
love to make it 18 million with the Chinese next year. But what is
important is that we are planning in a manner, so that we can have also a
specific strategy for the problem of unemployment, which has been
caused by what you’ve called “extreme austerity”. So, on the one hand
yes, fiscal consolidation was absolutely necessary, on the other hand,
yes, we need fiscal stimulus, which can come through those measures I’
ve just mentioned. And I think that this balance, I think that this
absolutely need of the harmony, which is another well known word both
for Chinese and Greeks, is something that you have to follow. It has to
be harmonious. It cannot be overextended towards the A or the B part of
it. It has to be balanced and this is what we are trying to do.
Ερώτηση: Your Excellency, good morning. I’m … from the Institute for
European Studies and someone that has immense interest in Greece and I
benefited a lot from your excellent presentation this morning.
(..) China and Greece established a comprehensive, strategic partnership
in 2006, but cooperation in the various areas is still imbalanced,
you‘ve mentioned on many times that there are many ways to increase our
cooperation and advance cooperation in various areas. My question is
what preferential policies or good policies that you have to attract
Chinese investment?
Α. Σαμαράς: Strategic relation is, I believe, a relation that is not
tactical and is not short-term. A relation which is strategic is one
which is based on long-term and stable consideration. It cannot be time
constrained. You cannot ask someone to help you just because you are in
danger now and then forget about him after the danger is over. What I
believe is important is that we have a strategic relationship in terms
of the deep realization that the two countries can have sustained
long-term synergies in the very long run, little by little. You know I
don’t want to create the impression that one can be so optimistic and
dream things that cannot happen. I much more believe in the steady
dreams of what your new President has talked about. It’ s a dream that
is tangible and the things we are talking about for attracting, for
instance, Chinese investments in Greece is something tangible. We have
specific areas we are going to have privatization procedures, open
bidding processes where the Chinese will participate. They have already
come to Greece many times, some of them I had the pleasure and honor to
see them in my office. We will be there for a long time. We want to
expand, we want to create job opportunities. The word “jobs” is the
number one word that comes to my mind every morning when I see this
unemployment level. And I know that China can really help. You are
expanding all over the world. We are at the South-eastern part of
Europe, we are at the tip of Europe, we are the borders of Europe. In an
area where all the large commercial routes are starting to go to Asia.
And geopolitically and geostrategically we are there. It’ s obvious if
you open the map, it’ s obvious. And it’ s again even more obvious if
you open a History book, that we can have this deep relationship
together, which will be based, however, on a strategic concept of
cooperation, which by definition, I repeat, is not short-term. And what
I’ m trying to say, what I’ m trying to convey to everyone is that over
and above my government or your government this is History. I told the
CCTV before, this morning, that we are not living in a cold era any
more, Cold War era any more. We are not living even in a post-Cold War
era any more. We are living in a new era. Everything has changed. We
have jettisoned the past. And we are investing in the future. And if the
two countries with the largest, most important world renowned, well
known, unbelievable History do not merge their forces to create such
synergies, if we do not do it, nobody else can do it. And we can do it,
because of our “common DNA”, which is written in our History in a
long-term fashion that others cannot follow. We have always followed
it».